August 3, 2010

Anti-Roll Bar Installation

Filed under: News, Tricks and Tips — Team Durango @ 3:25 pm

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Anti-roll bars are included in the DEX410 and DEX410 2010 Spec kit. Now available from Team Durango are anti-roll bar sets for the DEX410R. These are part numbers:-

TD230012 – Rear Anti-Roll Bar Set

TD230013 – Front Anti-Roll Bar Set

Anti-roll bars are a useful tuning option. They allow you to add stiffness in roll without effecting the stiffness of the shocks over large bumps and jumps where the wheels at the front or rear of the buggy move up and down together. They work by transferring the load from the heavily loaded outer suspension to the lightly loaded inner suspension during cornering. This reduces the roll angle so the buggy corners flatter. In general anti-roll bars are used on smoother, higher grip tracks as they may not work so well on really bumpy or rutted tracks.

A front roll bar will decrease the steering of the buggy, and will make the buggy smoother and more consistent through a turn. It will stop the front end digging-in.

A rear roll bar will increase the rotation of the buggy in the middle of a corner and will help the buggy square-up faster coming out of a turn.

It is important when installing your anti-roll bar to make sure that all the components can move freely with no binding, with the minimum of play.

Here we show you how we recommend installing the TD230012 Anti-Roll Bar Set to the rear of the DEX410R. Fitting the front roll bar is a very similar process, but requires the removal of the front diff cover as this is used to hold the front roll bar in place.

The TD230012 set includes all the metal parts you require.

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The TD230012 set includes all the metal parts you require

The plastic parts needed are included with your DEX410R kit. The holders for the roll bars are part of TD330003 parts tree. The rod ends are included on the parts tree TD330001.

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The plastic parts are included in your kit

The first step is to build the links for the roll bar. You need to build two of these. The gap between the rod ends should be 18mm. It is important to make sure both the rod ends have the same gap so the roll bar works evenly on left and right hand corners.

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Ensure both roll bar links are built to the same length

Now place the pivot balls into one rod end of each of your roll bar links. The pivot balls should pop into place and move freely inside the rod end.

The next part of the process is to put the anti-roll bar pivot balls onto the roll bar. Place thread lock onto the M3×3mm screw and partially screw it into the anti-roll bar pivot ball. Now push the roll bar into the hole in the pivot ball so that the roll bar comes flush with the end of the pivot ball. The set screw should be positioned so that the it is angled slightly upwards when the roll bar is placed flat on the desk. Now repeat this process for the second anti-roll bar pivot ball. It is important for equal roll bar action left and right to ensure that the set screws are both at the same angle as the pivot balls sit off-set on the roll bar.

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Make sure the set screws in the anti-roll bar pivot balls sit at the same angle to the roll bar as each other

Now it is time to attach the roll bar to the buggy. The first step is to remove the wheels and the shocks from the buggy. Now place the roll bar onto the buggy and secure with the roll bar holders. The roll bar holders are held in place by the 2 M3×6mm button head screws included in the anti-roll bar set.

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Attach the roll bar to the bulkhead of the buggy

When you have installed the roll bar holders you need to fit the M3×4 set screws into the roll bar holders. These set screws are there to reduce the free play in the assembly fixing the roll bar to the buggy. Set screws are used as they allow for adjustment for different thickness roll bars. When screwing in the set screw you need to ensure that it is not too tight so that it stops the roll bar dropping under it’s own weight. You should screw one of the set screws in first until you feel the set screw touch the roll bar. At this point you may need to unscrew the set screw a small amount so that the roll bar will drop under it’s own weight. Repeat this process with the set screw in the other roll bar holder.

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Tighten the set screws to remove free play in the roll bar

Now it is time to fit the roll bar links that were assembled earlier to the buggy. These are attached to the wishbone by a M3×8mm button head screw. The screw passes through the wishbone and then screws into the pivot ball. It is a good idea to use thread lock on this screw.You can hold the pivot ball with some needle nose pliers when you are tightening up the pivot ball.

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Attach the roll bar link to the wishbone

When you have attached the roll bar link to the wishbone you should attach the other end to the anti-roll bar pivot ball. Make sure that the assembly moves freely at this stage. You can rotate the plastic parts of the roll bar links now so that they sit square with the pivot balls. Repleat this process with the other side.

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Now the assembly is fitted it is time to check the action is equal

If the assembly all moves freely then it is time to check that the anti-roll bar has a equal effect on both sides of the suspension. This can be done by lifting one side slowly and checking at what point the other side starts to lift up.

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Lift one side and see at what point the other side moves. You want the effect to be the same on both the left and right hand sides of the suspension

If you find that when you lift one side it has more of an effect than the other side then you need to adjust the length of the roll bar links to equal out the roll bar effect left-to-right.

For example if you find that when you lift the right hand suspension arm the left hand suspension arm moves sooner than the right hand suspension arm moves when you lift the left hand suspension arm then you should slightly shorten the length of the right hand roll bar link. Shorten this in small steps, checking on the effect of the adjustment until the suspension arms lift equally on the left and right hand side of the buggy.

There are a couple of tuning options with roll bars. For fine adjusment of the roll bar stiffness you can move the anti-roll bar pivot ball on the roll bar. Moving the anti-roll bar pivot ball towards the end of the roll bar will have the effect of softening the action of the anti-roll bar.

For a bigger adjustment we offer different thickness roll bars. A thicker roll bar has a greater effect than a thinner roll bar as it will transfer more of the force from one side of the suspension to the other. The roll bar sets come with 1.5mm thick roll bars, we also offer roll bars in 1.3mm and 2.0mm thicknesses for both front and rear. Here are the part numbers for our anti-roll bars.

TD330047 – ANTI ROLL BAR FRONT 1.3mm

TD330048 – ANTI ROLL BAR FRONT 1.5mm

TD330049 – ANTI ROLL BAR REAR 1.3mm

TD330050 – ANTI ROLL BAR REAR 1.5mm

TD330051 - ANTI ROLL BAR FRONT 2.0mm

TD330052 – ANTI ROLL BAR REAR 2.0mm

July 29, 2010

Shock build guide

Filed under: News, Tricks and Tips — Team Durango @ 4:14 pm

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In this guide we show you how to build the Team Durango shocks that feature on both the DEX410 and the DEX410R models. These shocks are available seperately as part numbers TD230010 – 1/10 Electric Shock Absorber Set: Front and TD230011 – 1/10 Electric Shock Absorber Set: Rear.

A well built set of shocks will ensure consistent handling and reliable performance. Here we show you how we recommend building your shocks to ensure consistency and repeatability when buiding your shocks.

Assemble the piston on the shock shaft. The first step is to place the small washer on to the shaft.

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Place the small washer onto the shock shaft

Then place the piston on the shaft making sure the piston is the correct way up. Now put the screw in to hold the piston in place. We recommend using thread lock on this screw to ensure it does not come loose in use. If using Team Durango red thread lock you only need a small amount, if you use too much the screw may be difficult to remove.

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Use a small amount of thread lock on the screw to hold the piston in place

The piston you need to choose will depend on the surface you are running on. Please check the set ups in our set ups section on our website here for good starting points for which pistons and oils you will need.

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The assembled shock shaft and piston

Now assemble the shock seals inside the shock bodies. We recommend lubricating these parts with shock oil as you assemble them. You need the thin black plastic spacer first, making sure that the flat surface will face the o-ring.

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Make sure the flat face of the first plastic spacer is facing up to where the o-ring will sit

Then place an o-ring, the thick black plastic spacer, another o-ring and finally the wide black plastic spacer. The flat face of the wide spacer needs to be facing the o-ring. When the parts are in place screw on the shock seal cap.

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The assembled shock body

Now you can put the shock shaft in place. You must take care when doing this so that you don’t damage the o-rings. Some set ups require internal limiters to be placed in the shocks. If you intend to run limiters inside the shocks then you need to put these onto the shock shaft now before you push the shock shaft into place. Having placed any limiters onto the shock shaft you should now place a few drops of shock oil on the threads of the shock shaft and then carefully push the shock shaft through the shock seals.

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A small amount of shock oil on the threads of the shock shaft will protect the o-rings

Now put in place the shock cap o-ring. It is easier to do this now than when the shock is full of oil.

Now you are ready to fill up the shocks with oil. Fill the shock bodies so that the oil is level with the top of the shock body. Then slowly move the piston up and down to allow air bubbles to escape from behind the piston. Stand the shocks up for a while to allow any more air bubbles to escape.

When all the air bubbles have escaped from the shock you may be required to top up the oil. The oil should be level with the top of the shock when the piston is at the bottom of the shock.

Now with the shock fully extended you need to screw on the shock cap.

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The assembled shock is now ready to be bled

With the shock cap in place you need to bleed the shock. This process removed excess oil so that the shock piston can move all the way inside the shock body without becoming hydraulically locked. During this process you can tune the rebound of the shock. Here we give a good starting point that will work well in most situations.

Place 4mm of spacers over the shock shaft and push the shock shaft into the shock body until there is 4mm between the bottom of the shock body and the top of the chamfer where the shock shaft starts to reduce in diameter.

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With 4mm of spacers you can see where to push the shock shaft to

Wipe off any excess oil that has come out of the bleed screw hole and screw in the bleed screw into the shock cap.

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Now fit the bleed screw

Now you need to fit the shock rod end to your shocks. To do this you need to hold the shock shaft without marking its surface. This can be done by holding the shock shaft with non-serrated pliers with a piece of paper in between the shock shaft and the pliers.

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Hold the shaft with non-serrated pliers so you don’t mark it

When you have hold of the shock shaft you need to screw the rod end into place. At this point you need to set the length of the shock. One method of measuring the length of the shock is to measure the gap between the shock seal cap and the top of the shock rod end, this is a very accurate way to measure your shocks to ensure that you have equal shock lengths on both sides of your car.

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You can measure the shock lenght like this

Please see the set up sheets on the Team Durango website for recommended shock lengths.

When you have done this you can screw on the shock nut. This has an o-ring inside of it to stop it from adjusting by itself. Push the o-ring into the groove and screw the shock nut onto the shock body. We recommend screwing this all the way to the top of the threads, then mark the nut inline with the hole in the shock cap. Then you will be able to count the number of turns of the shock nut accurately when making adjustments to your ride height.

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Mark the shock nut so you can make set up changes quickly and easily

With the shock nut in place you can put the spring on to the shock and then the spring retainer.

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Ready for installation on your car

Now all that needs to be done is to push the pivot balls into the shock cap and the shock rod end and your shocks are ready for installation on to your car.

July 13, 2010

25mm Lipo in DEX410

Filed under: Tricks and Tips — Team Durango @ 8:03 am

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The DEX410 was originally designed around lipo packs that were 23.5mm tall. This was the maximum height for a legal lipo battery at the time.

Since then there has been a change in the regulations, increasing this maximum height dimension to allow lipos of up to 25mm to be used for racing.

When developing the DEX410R model this change in battery regulations was taken into account and existing parts were revised to allow the fitment of 25mm high lipo packs.

Here we show you what parts are required to fit 25mm high lipos in the original DEX410.

Parts Required:-

TD310155 MID DRIVE GEAR PLATE (ALUMINIUM) (25MM)

TD310156 MOTOR MOUNT PLATE (25mm)

TD310039 GEAR BOX SET: FRONT & REAR

TD320005 BATTERY HOLDER SET (LIPO)

The centreline transmission on the DEX410 runs quite close to the battery pack. To use a taller battery the centreline transmission needs to be raised slightly.

Raising the slipper clutch assembly:-

To do this there is a new motor mount and mid drive gear plate that raises the slipper assembly, these are part numbers TD310155 and TD310156.

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New motor plate (TD310156) on the left mounts the slipper assembly in a higher position then the original motor plate (TD310009) on the right

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New mid gear plate (TD310155) on the left mounts the slipper assembly in a higher position then the original mid gear plate (TD310008) on the right

Increasing the angle of the rear gearbox:-

Raising the slipper assembly will give clearance for the battery pack in the middle of the car. It is also necessary to raise the angle of the gearbox to give clearance for the battery back along the length of the driveshaft. To do this we have updated the gearbox holder on TD310039 gear box set. This now holds the rear gear box at a slightly higher angle, giving the driveshaft more clearance over the battery pack.

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New gearbox holder on the left holds the rear gearbox at a greater angle than the old gearbox holder

With these parts fitted there is now clearance under the centre driveshaft for 25mm lipo battery packs.

Fitting the lipo battery holder:-

There are two heights at which the lipo battery holder can be mounted. The lower one is for 23.5mm high lipo battery packs and the higher for 25mm high lipo battery packs.

At the hinge end the gearbox holder now has two holes. Use the upper hole for 25mm lipo battery packs.

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New gearbox holder has two positions for mounting the battery strap

We have modified the lipo battery holder, part TD320005, so that the parts tree now includes spacers to raise the front mount for the strap in the middle of the car. When using 25mm lipo batteries these spacers go in-between the front mount for the battery strap and the chassis, slightly longer screws will be required due to the thickness of the spacers.

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The two spacers included in TD320005 are for spacing up the front battery mount when using 25mm lipo batteries

With the spacers under the front battery mount and the battery strap fitted in the upper of the two positions for the hinge end you know have a secure fitting for your 25mm high lipo battery.


June 4, 2010

Setting up your Servo Saver

Filed under: Tricks and Tips — Team Durango UK @ 9:38 am

Setting up your Servo Saver correctly can help you reduce your lap times and protect your servo gears during crashes.

Step 1.

With your Servo Saver partially assembled as on page 29 of the DEX410 manual apply Thread lock (TD39006) to the top few threads of the Servo Saver Shaft (TD713001)

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Step 2.

Screw on the Servo Saver Nut (TD708001) and screw down until the nut is 1.4mm below the end of the Servo Saver Shaft (TD713001).

Nut depth

With the nut at this setting it should be just possible to move the arms together in a ’squeezing’ motion with your fingers.

This setting is only a guide to give you a good starting point for your kit.

Remember that the threadlock will take at least 1 hour to start to set, so ideally your servo saver should be set before you attend a race meeting. Once the threadlock has set, finer adjustments can be made at the meeting.

If your car seems to wander about from left to right and does not hold the trim setting on your transmitter very well, your servo saver may be too loose. Your car may also feel like it has not enough steering in tight and high speed corners. If your car has either of these symptoms, check your servo saver.

If your servo saver is too tight you may risk damaging your servo saver and your servo.

Once you are happy with your setting, measure the distance in step 2 and note it down in your manual. Then when you rebuild your kit you will know the correct setting for your servo and car.

April 30, 2010

Starting Set-up for DEX410 (Outdoors)

Filed under: Tricks and Tips — Team Durango UK @ 9:18 am

At Team Durango, the team have been working hard over the start of the outdoor season and at Test days to get a good set-up on the DEX410.

Confused Set-up Sheet

We think we’ve found a couple depending on your driving style. You’ll notice there are slight diffrences for each driver but very much around a base set-up.

Aggressive driving style

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Mild driving style

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Smooth Drving style

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The set-ups are already in the ‘In the pits’ section of Team Durango Website. The team post set-ups after every meeting they attend usually within 1 or 2 days of the event.

http://www.team-durango.com/in-the-pits.php

If your stuck at any time for a set-up or need to ask a question you can always e-mail: setups(at)team-durango.com

All photos are used with the permission of our friends at oOple.com

Durango’s forum on oOple can be found here too:- Link

April 27, 2010

How to Save / Send in your set-ups using the Team Durango Editable Set-up Sheet

Filed under: Tricks and Tips — Team Durango UK @ 11:04 am

The below method is when using the ‘Editable’ pdf on the Durango Website.
1. Download the blank set-up sheet from the TD website:

Step 1

2. Download a pdf writer such as CutePDF – http://www.cutepdf.com/products/cutepdf/Writer.asp
Install the software it will find it’s place on your PC

Step 2

3. You can fill in the form, typing in data and picking data from the drop-downs.
Step 3
4. Once you have filled in the form, if you want to save a copy for yourself do the following:
Using the pdf writer mentioned above ‘CutePDF’.

With your ‘filled in’ set-up sheet open, click the ‘Print’ button on the set-up sheet.Step 4a
Change the printer to CutePDF Writer.

Step 4b
Click OK.
It will then bring up a ’save as’ dialog box. (Here you need to navigate to where you will be keeping your set-ups)
Step 4c Choose a filename fo your file.

Then click Save

If you want to then send in your setup to Team Durango just hit the submit button on the set-up sheet at any time.

Step 5
Simples

December 9, 2009

Bullet-Proofing your CVD’s

Filed under: Tricks and Tips — Team Durango UK @ 9:45 am

A properly built CVD ensures your Durango DEX410 runs right to the finish line every time. Here we show you a little extra tip for your centre CVD using the TD310023 CVD Boot.

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Building the Perfect Diff

Filed under: Tricks and Tips — Team Durango UK @ 9:10 am

Keeping your diff leak free will keep the amount of track-side maintenance down on your Durango DEX410. Take your time to build your diffs well and they will stay leak free until you need to change / refresh your diff fluid. (more…)

December 8, 2009

Rear inner hinge pin spacer (TD709005)

Filed under: Tricks and Tips — Team Durango UK @ 4:51 pm

To ensure a perfectly free movement of the rear supension a-arm, you can carefully sand-down the gold alloy spacer (TD709005) by 0.20mm (more…)

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